Jewish Atheist

An agnostic atheist perspective
from a once orthodox Jew.
made-in-jerusalem-responds:

jewishatheist:

made-in-jerusalem:

That’s why they’re pushing forward with the Shmad Decree. They see we’re growing, and they want to do everything they can to forcefully convert us to Zionism.

lol
riiiight, I’m sure that’s the reason and it has nothing to do with the lack of employment, lack of civil service, and over-reliance on government aid. I.e. being takers and not givers.
Instead, it’s definitely part of a secret plot to convert you to a theory of nationalism not even endorsed by all of its secular inhabitants.
Honestly, it amazes me the crazy conspiracies and ideas which believers endorse in place of the obvious.

You think three years in the army means they’re then going to work for the rest of their lives? There’s a lot better, cheaper, and more effective ways to get people into the workforce.
You don’t see any other country forcefully conscripting people in order to attempt them to integrate into society.

lol, no. you’re obviously quite confused.
The fact is that Israel has a mandatory draft - unlike most countries - but inasmuch as they do, citizens of the country should go and contribute their fair share. it’s simply another example of how charedim enjoy benefits of the country (i.e. safety) without contributing.
It has nothing to do with getting them into the workforce (which is a whole nother important problem) or “forced integration.” 

made-in-jerusalem-responds:

jewishatheist:

made-in-jerusalem:

That’s why they’re pushing forward with the Shmad Decree. They see we’re growing, and they want to do everything they can to forcefully convert us to Zionism.

lol

riiiight, I’m sure that’s the reason and it has nothing to do with the lack of employment, lack of civil service, and over-reliance on government aid. I.e. being takers and not givers.

Instead, it’s definitely part of a secret plot to convert you to a theory of nationalism not even endorsed by all of its secular inhabitants.

Honestly, it amazes me the crazy conspiracies and ideas which believers endorse in place of the obvious.

You think three years in the army means they’re then going to work for the rest of their lives? There’s a lot better, cheaper, and more effective ways to get people into the workforce.

You don’t see any other country forcefully conscripting people in order to attempt them to integrate into society.

lol, no. you’re obviously quite confused.

The fact is that Israel has a mandatory draft - unlike most countries - but inasmuch as they do, citizens of the country should go and contribute their fair share. it’s simply another example of how charedim enjoy benefits of the country (i.e. safety) without contributing.

It has nothing to do with getting them into the workforce (which is a whole nother important problem) or “forced integration.” 

made-in-jerusalem:

That’s why they’re pushing forward with the Shmad Decree. They see we’re growing, and they want to do everything they can to forcefully convert us to Zionism.

lol
riiiight, I’m sure that’s the reason and it has nothing to do with the lack of employment, lack of civil service, and over-reliance on government aid. I.e. being takers and not givers.
Instead, it’s definitely part of a secret plot to convert you to a theory of nationalism not even endorsed by all of its secular inhabitants.
Honestly, it amazes me the crazy conspiracies and ideas which believers endorse in place of the obvious.

made-in-jerusalem:

That’s why they’re pushing forward with the Shmad Decree. They see we’re growing, and they want to do everything they can to forcefully convert us to Zionism.

lol

riiiight, I’m sure that’s the reason and it has nothing to do with the lack of employment, lack of civil service, and over-reliance on government aid. I.e. being takers and not givers.

Instead, it’s definitely part of a secret plot to convert you to a theory of nationalism not even endorsed by all of its secular inhabitants.

Honestly, it amazes me the crazy conspiracies and ideas which believers endorse in place of the obvious.

dasfreefree:

i need to clarify this because sometimes people get confused about this:

i don’t identify with judaism as a religion and i haven’t for the past seven years

i do identify with my jewish heritage. to deny it would be deny the hardships and discrimination my ancestors had to face and the struggles of jewish people now

and that’s that

well said.

bluejewofzsouchmuhn asked: Aaaaaaahhhhhhhh help please bro! YK just came in and I'm about to start cooking my dinner and I feel Fucked. Up. Like so guilty. Help! I just discovered a recent car repair was f'd up and I'm going to have to go back and have it redone next week, and I feel like god is punishing me. I thought I was over all this superstition, but I'm feeling persecuted! What's wrong with me?! Does this ever happen to you? Guess I need a good talking-to. Bleah. :[ Thanks for reading, bro. xoxo (public answer OK)

Sorry for that last ask! I’m feeling much better. I would still like to know your response, but I’ve realized why I was feeling so vulnerable a while ago. Ironically, part of it was from not eating enough today… lol So, how’s the bacon cheeseburger??

Hey Blue,

It’s all good, and I’m glad you’re feeling better. I do get moments like that, esp when I’m having a "bad day" or "bad luck". I start to wonder if I was wrong, if there is a god, the god of the bible, if I’m going to be punished, etc etc etc.

Frankly, I think that’s not entirely a bad thing. It shows that we’re still open-minded. But why does this happen? I’m sure rabbis would love to tell us it’s our “pintele yid,” the little spark of our soul - but I think a much more reasonable explanation is that our brains were overrun with those religious memes for a long time and in a very deep way so they’re difficult to purge entirely. Simple as that. (Same thing as thinking about an ex for awhile after a break-up.) Plus, throw in the fear factor, the sense of “bad luck”, and it’s understandable that we might go back to a bit of superstitious thinking.

And yeah, it still happens to me now and then as well (though less and less as more time goes by), but when my subconscious starts to throw those emotions my way, I start to think about it rationally. I think about the obvious explanation for the feelings, and I think about religion: Frankly, the bible reeks of a man-made document from ancient times. I remember why it makes no sense to think it’s true. So that helps shake me from my yhwh-inspired reverie. And then I think about god itself. It really doesn’t make much sense, and certainly doesn’t have any good arguments for it. That helps too. If there is a god, we have no reason to think it’s anything like the bible god, or any god we’ve been told about. (And I certainly don’t worry about having pissed off thor or zeus or jesus etc.) If there is a god - and that’s a fucking huge “if" - there’s no reason to think it cares about any of that nonsense, like fasting and begging for our lives, like a spoiled brat.

I walk my mind through the steps that led me to where I am. I think about the logic of it; I remember why I reached the conclusions I did, and frankly, it still makes sense. That usually helps. So I basically just try to shake it off, the same way I shake off other difficult decisions I’ve made, even ones which occasionally haunt me.

And yeah, not getting enough sleep, or enough to eat, or dealing with a lot of stress - those all can contribute to those superstitious feelings.

Also, remember that these feelings are common. You are definitely not alone. But give it time, try to work through those feelings, and just think of it as a “bad break-up” that you’re still getting over.

I am planning to get a double-bacon cheeseburger tomorrow… maybe I’ll post a pic =]

Have an easy break-fast =D

I don’t give a shit it’s Yom Kippur I’m going to eat this Baconator, my name may not be inscribed into the book of life, but it’s sure as hell going to be on this Wendy’s receipt

V. (via saranoia)

lol

Yom Kippur Skipper (Repost)

rationaljew:

This is a repost of something I wrote after Yom Kippur last year. I’m so thankful for how much has changed since I wrote this. The fact that I’m able to sit next to my wife, who is observing Yom Kipper (and shabbos), and work on my computer and we are both totally happy with each other is really amazing. Last year at this time we were both very scared about the changes we were going through and where they would lead us and if they would pull us apart. But we have learned to love each other for who we are as people and not our beliefs and find our way through life together with Compromise as our map.

Yom Kippur Skipper

A man stands outside the sanctuary doors, alone. On the other side closed eyes squeeze the last drops of submission from the hearts beneath them.

They make nectar for God.

Faces press against the pages of open prayerbooks. Lips kiss the print. Hips twist. Shoulders sway. Knees bend. Heels bounce.

Some of the weaker minds wander.

The fear of death choreographs the movements; coordinates the incantations. They wear white to be like the angels. They howl at heaven.

This is their recipe for salvation.

The man outside doesn’t go in.

Alone in the hallway, he absorbs the ritual; observes the movements through the window on the door, listens to the chants.

He holds his prayerbook closed. Lips stiff. Hips still. Shoulders steady. Knees straight. Heels flat.

He wonders.

Very happy to read the first part, and really enjoyed the writing of the second part.

In response to my “atheist are…" post, my good friend replied:

@halfreal said: Have you tried that with “theists”?

She was right… yikes! 
Both are food for thought. And I want to say that even though I think theists are totally wrong, I strongly disagree with calling them “dumb” or “insane” or “mentally ill” etc. They’re just misinformed most of the time, and indoctrinated from youth most of the time. I should know, I was one! I wasn’t “stupid” or “insane” back then, I just hadn’t studied the subject enough (or almost at all, at least not from a balanced perspective). 
So let’s focus our arguments against the arguments, not the people. It’s incorrect and makes us atheists look bad.

In response to my “atheist are…" post, my good friend replied:

@halfreal said: Have you tried that with “theists”?

She was right… yikes!

Both are food for thought. And I want to say that even though I think theists are totally wrong, I strongly disagree with calling them “dumb” or “insane” or “mentally ill” etc. They’re just misinformed most of the time, and indoctrinated from youth most of the time. I should know, I was one! I wasn’t “stupid” or “insane” back then, I just hadn’t studied the subject enough (or almost at all, at least not from a balanced perspective).

So let’s focus our arguments against the arguments, not the people. It’s incorrect and makes us atheists look bad.

Could you imagine if a friend of yours, or a parent, or a boss, required the kind of apology that god allegedly requires on yom kippur?! All the weeping and pleading, fasting and affliction? Searching for sincere repentance, begging for forgiveness, and even offering money or other sacrifices? It seems so ridiculously over the top.

On the other hand, your boss isn’t going to kill you - which is essentially what god is threatening. So, yeah, a bit over the top as well.

But I can already hear the apologetics: ‘You don’t get it, this isn’t an insult to an ol’ person - this is god!” - Yeah, you’d think he’d be above such pettiness.

Or, ‘this is different. By disobeying god one is messing up the whole plan for creation!” - Well, a plan that involves people with free will but requires that they only use it a certain way isn’t a very good plan if the solution is to kill them (not to mention the time spent in hell). More importantly, if it’s messing up the creation, how does pleading with god and sacrificing money to him help? - ‘Oh, bc it shows a true change of heart, and that helps fix everything.’ Very, shall we say, convenient. The whole master plan is mucked up but if I’m sorry, then it’s all fixed.

Personally, I’m going to worry about stuff we know actually exists and matters. For everyone else, enjoy your day of affliction.

Dawkins’ 7 point scale of belief.
Made it for a project I’m working on =]
(I know it’s a bit sloppy… I made this at 5 am and it’s just a concept draft. But still, pretty cool… though I might work with the negative image, looks even cooler imo.)

Dawkins’ 7 point scale of belief.

Made it for a project I’m working on =]

(I know it’s a bit sloppy… I made this at 5 am and it’s just a concept draft. But still, pretty cool… though I might work with the negative image, looks even cooler imo.)

(Source: jewishatheist)

you-wish-you-had-this-url:

We all know that one stoner kid who thinks he’s a philosophical genius

suddenly very self conscious, lol

(p.s. I’m trying to lay off the green, been three days… three loooong days, lol)

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Tom Waits

—Jack Kerouac on the Road

alcools:

Tom Waits - Jack Kerouac on the Road

I love when one artist I like muses about another artist I like.

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