Jewish Atheist

An agnostic atheist perspective
from a once orthodox Jew.

"I am a young earth creationist. I “understand” evolution and do not believe in it, due to its lack of solid, verifiable evidence and lack of logic."

looking at christian blogs can be fun for a laugh.

Submission: Why I Liked the Film “God’s Not Dead” ___ **Spoilers**

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This movie impacted me greatly. I was raised in a Christian home and shared my faith with atheists in high school. I’ve experienced academic and social rejection to my faith, but Christ has done so much in my life that I don’t want keep what society deems ‘politically correct” to keep me from sharing my faith.

The movie brought me to tears several times such as when the Muslim-turned-Christian girl was disowned, when Prof Raddison read the letter from his mom and later gave his life to Christ and when the Newsboys prayed for dying Amy.

I’ve read things from unbelievers saying the movie was cliché and depicted atheists as monsters, and I see some of that in the film, which I don’t think was a good idea, but I think the movie’s goal was to speak out against New Atheism (atheists seeking to destroy beliefs of theists) and also show that there is hope in Christ. In order for someone to be truly touched by this film, believer or non, the Spirit of God has to move in their life.

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I’m still working on my full review of the film, but I’d like to analyze 's positive reaction to he film:

To begin, you relate to the film bc you share your beliefs with atheists in your school. And experienced “academic and social rejection” bc of your faith.

So, to begin, maybe you shouldn’t be “sharing” your faith with atheists. They probably find it rather annoying, like the vocal vegan at the BBQ; understand that some people are just not interested. It’s not so much about being ‘politically correct’ as much as just not being really annoying and kinda douchy. (like how the movie suggests its viewers text everyone in their phonebook about their religious beliefs. tx, just tx so much. pfft)

Also, what do you mean by academic and social rejection?

It seems what impressed you most by the film was the appeal to emotion, which I think was the film’s most effective “argument,” if one can call it that. But none of those instances you cited are proof of god, let alone jesus. They’re just a story narrative; fictional. They don’t actually demonstrate anything - except perhaps christian bias. (e.g. how the muslim father is made to look terrible - he’s swarthy and beats his daughter.)

But none of these are actual arguments, which is one of my main criticisms of the film, which is supposed to be centered around a debate between a christian and his philosophy professor: There’s zero philosophy involved, a smidgeon of carefully chosen and rebutted pseudo-scientific arguments, and a massive amount of emotional manipulation.

I’m glad you recognize how atheists are maligned and completely stereotyped in this film (like sorbo’s character, implying that atheists are total assholes and are only atheists bc of some harsh thing that happened to them, and that deep down they’re really ready to accept jesus if only the right opportunity presented itself, pfft). As for new atheists: they’re trying to do the same thing which millions of christians try to do everyday: change people’s minds. Nothing wrong with that. What is wrong is when people lie and deceive to do that, much like this film which is entirely a propaganda piece.

Not sure how the film show’s there is hope in christ: sorbo died after accepting jesus, amy still has cancer, the main guy lost his gf, the muslim girl lost her family, the asian kid now has problems with his family, etc etc. Everyone seems to be screwed and life just as random and whimsical as it is for the billions who live without jesus.

"In order for someone to be truly touched by this film, believer or non, the Spirit of God has to move in their life." - Where do you get these suppositions from? Why can’t people just like or dislike it for the same fucking reasons and in the same manner as they judge ALL movies or books or wtvr. Why does liking this require special-pleading for a magical force? And why do I suspect that only christians - and only some christians - would enjoy this film and that it’s bc it speaks to their beliefs and biases?

In short, I want to say that I have no idea why you liked this horrible film, but I know the reason: despite its horrible messages, stereotypes, terrible plot, etc - the movie provides validation for those who just want to believe.

oncerbat asked: Either way, even though the movie didn't affect you as I thought it did, I look forward to hearing what you thought of it. Even if you weren't impacted by it, I'm sure there were many people who's lives were greatly affected and changed by this film, myself included.

As I said, I’ll be posting my review soon.

Personally, I’d really love to hear why and how the film effected you and others. What messages did you get out of it. And also, what messages do you think a non-christian would get from watching it. cheers!

Anonymous asked: What do you think of Jewish people who haven't accepted Jesus

in-the-right:

What then shall we say? That the Gentiles, who did not pursue righteousness, have obtained it, a righteousness that is by faith; but the people of Israel, who pursued the law as the way of righteousness, have not attained their goal. Why not? Because they pursued it not by faith but as if it were by works. They stumbled over the stumbling stone.

Romans 9:30-32

The Jews who reject the salvation of Jesus are still beholden to the Old Law that they cling to. No one has ever followed the Old Law perfectly (except Jesus), and no one ever will. Therefore, if they try to adhere to the Old Law for their salvation, they will fail and be sent to hell for their sins.

For further information:

Jews & Salvation

rofl

for god so loved the world he gave them a list of dictator’s commands that he knew they couldn’t abide so that they may go to hell when they don’t jump on the fucking crazy idea that some carpenter is god incarnate.

makes total sense!

oncerbat asked: I just saw your post regarding your Christian conversion as a result of seeing the God's Not Dead movie. Praise God! Welcome to the family of Christ! I was raised a Christian and if you ever have questions as a new believer, I'm here for you. That was a powerful movie! It touched my life and I sobbed several times throughout. I'm glad to see the Holy Spirit moved in your life through this film! God bless you! I look forward to hearing your conversion story.

Dude, I was being extremely sarcastic. The movie is a terrible propaganda piece and had no remotely persuasive arguments. I intend to write up a full review soon.

davidtuchman:

this video is still one of my favorite things i’ve made

lol


SOURCE

Interesting article.
Also, yet another demonstration of Manis Friedman as a total asshat.
And to be clear: This isn’t the majority opinion in Israel or amongst Jews; he doesn’t speak or represent all jews… but it does show that one can be an orthodox jew and have a vile, totally immoral sense of values.

SOURCE

Interesting article.

Also, yet another demonstration of Manis Friedman as a total asshat.

And to be clear: This isn’t the majority opinion in Israel or amongst Jews; he doesn’t speak or represent all jews… but it does show that one can be an orthodox jew and have a vile, totally immoral sense of values.

(Source: systematicgenocide)

God’s NOT Dead

Big news everyone - I just watched the movie “god’s not dead”, and now I’m a christian.

More info on my amazing conversion soon!

>Spider-Man is turning gay
>Thor is now a woman
>Captain America is now black
>Wonder Woman is now a Jew

-Anonymous (via basedinternet)

The OP tagged this with “genocide” and “death of the white race”. rofl

1) There are white women, gay people, and jews.

2) Do you actually see this small amount of diversity in comic books as destroying your race? That’s really pathetic. And fairly insane.

3) Spider-Man, Thor (the comic), and Captain America were all created by Jewish people. People who hated closed-minded bigoted assholes like yourself.

So I don’t think those superheroes ever “belonged” to you (whatever the fuck it is that you think you are). They were born from oppressed minorities, and will remain the heroes of oppressed minorities, and you can cry and whine all you like as your sad, primitive way of thinking goes the way of the dinosaurs.

(Source: boards.4chan.org, via basedinternet)

Anonymous asked: Feminist?

Depends on what you mean by that, but probably yes.

rationaljew asked: Do you still look back to your old life and feel dumbfounded by how you could have believed all that ridiculous nonsense? How has your view of friends and family changed? I sometimes can't help thinking of my religious friends and family as archaic crackpots. And I can't figure out for the life of me how I actually believed all that shit. I mean, I know WHY I believed it, but it still surprises me that I did.

1. Part of me wonders how I could have believed it, but I know it’s bc of indoctrination, misinformation, and poorly developed reasoning skills. But yeah, how the hell did I believe in it?!

2. My group of friends has changed pretty much entirely. I’m not in contact with almost any of my friends from yeshiva (and don’t want to be). My friends now are much more open-minded and tend to be agnostic or atheist. 

As for family, it’s complicated. My parents are obviously unhappy that I’ve “lost my way”, but they’re getting used to it. And, ironically, my relationship with my folks now is better than it’s been in a long time.

And yeah, I know the feeling of thinking that religious folk are kinda crazy. and they kind of are. (but again, indoctrination, misinformation, and poor reasoning and research). but listening to them talk sometimes makes me want to face-palm so hard that I crush my skull. 

cheers

Anonymous asked: This "G-d's Iron Dome" business is confusing the hell out of me. If God likes to literally, physically protect Jewish people like that, it implies that He's a bit of a flake, to say the least. Showin' up in Europe in 1945 like "HAYYYY Y'ALLLLLL I WENT TO THE ANDROMEDA GALAXY FOR TWELVE YEARS! WHAT'D I MISS?"